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[Laura]

My insurance company does not ask to see my license every time the renew my policy.  Ergo, insurance is not proof of a drivers license.  Go get a replacement.  You cannot run with SASCA without a drivers license.

[sbmonkey]

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quote: quote: The course looks reversible...if you know what I mean. Originally posted by sbmonkey - Jan 24 2006 :  01:30:09 AM I REALLY don't think we should make it a habit of running courses like that.  The fact of the matter is that those folks who are unfortunate to run in the 1st run group end up throwing away their first or second run because the surface is so slick.  By the time the course just STARTS to get grippy for them, their chances of getting a good run for one direction are shot.  If we had a better lot surface to run on (one that was grippier from the beginning and didn't have as much pea-gravel), then I'd say we should do that, but our lot makes for a VERY frustrating day when we reverse it. Just my $.02.  I'm not on the BoD any more, but I was very unhappy with the last event we reversed and it wasn't because of the course design itself.  It just made for a frustrating day; not fun at all since I was one of the first cars on course in the first run group. Ricky Originally posted by Ricky Crow - Jan 24 2006 :  07:03:11 AM Hey Ricky!   [:-weepn][:-weepn][:-weepn] Just kidding!!!!!!!!!! I still drive so crappy that I couldn't tell the difference.  Except my afternoon times were slower that day.  Maybe this was part of it. Originally posted by kdwhite - Jan 24 2006 :  5:27:33 PM

I don't notice the difference either. []

[Ricky Crow]

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I don't notice the difference either. [] Originally posted by sbmonkey - Jan 25 2006 :  11:17:00 AM

How long have you been autocrossing??  [B)]

[sbmonkey]

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quote: I don't notice the difference either. [] Originally posted by sbmonkey - Jan 25 2006 :  11:17:00 AM How long have you been autocrossing??  [B)] Originally posted by Ricky Crow - Jan 25 2006 :  11:43:00 AM

This past weekend was only my 5th event...

[Ricky Crow]

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This past weekend was only my 5th event... Originally posted by sbmonkey - Jan 25 2006 :  11:58:07 AM

That explains it, then []

[Cragspider]

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quote: The course looks reversible...if you know what I mean. Originally posted by sbmonkey - Jan 24 2006 :  01:30:09 AM I REALLY don't think we should make it a habit of running courses like that.  The fact of the matter is that those folks who are unfortunate to run in the 1st run group end up throwing away their first or second run because the surface is so slick.  By the time the course just STARTS to get grippy for them, their chances of getting a good run for one direction are shot.  If we had a better lot surface to run on (one that was grippier from the beginning and didn't have as much pea-gravel), then I'd say we should do that, but our lot makes for a VERY frustrating day when we reverse it. Just my $.02.  I'm not on the BoD any more, but I was very unhappy with the last event we reversed and it wasn't because of the course design itself.  It just made for a frustrating day; not fun at all since I was one of the first cars on course in the first run group. Ricky Originally posted by Ricky Crow - Jan 24 2006 :  07:03:11 AM

I will agree with Ricky on this point. It sucks if your in the first run group cause all we are doing is cleaning off the course for the second run group. Even if we get a good run its gona be slower than the other group because of the surface. Plus it takes to long to get everybody back and start running if they have to walk it at least once.
Bryan

[sbmonkey]

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quote: This past weekend was only my 5th event... Originally posted by sbmonkey - Jan 25 2006 :  11:58:07 AM That explains it, then [] Originally posted by Ricky Crow - Jan 25 2006 :  12:42:47 PM

[TheBryGuy]

I'm going to use that excuse too.... =P

[AustinTX]

This is no different than any other 2-day event.  Just judge the results with the run group in mind.  I much prefer having a different course on the same day just for the variety.

John
STX 82

[JohnB]

I have a solution.  Lets put everybody in the second run group.  Then there will be nobody in the first run group and nobody can complain about having to run first.

[poopsi]

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I have a solution.  Lets put everybody in the second run group.  Then there will be nobody in the first run group and nobody can complain about having to run first. Originally posted by JohnB - Jan 25 2006 :  1:02:58 PM

That would be one BORING work assignment! [:-angel]

[bcorn]

As far as sweeping the track I don't think it maters that much. It's really just the first run of the first run group that does the clearing. I have never made my fastest run on the first try.

But what I like about running the same direction all day is that you get a chance to really nail the course. If you get 6-8 runs you can try alot of different techniques and setups without fear wasting a run. I think this works well for those of us that are still learning. At divisionals and nationals you only get 3 trys at each course. I think of the local events as practice for the big ones.

I am happy either way. It is all fun. But I feel like I learn more on the oneway days.

bcorn

[poopsi]

I'm not sure what I am doing - but I never have faster times in the afternoon. I use the word "never" loosely - I've been to all of 5 events. I think I start trying to work on too many things in one run. Hopefully I can figure some of that out at the novice school in March.

So it doesn't matter to me I'll have fun either way.

[JohnB]

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... But what I like about running the same direction all day is that you get a chance to really nail the course. .... At divisionals and nationals you only get 3 trys at each course. .... Originally posted by bcorn - Jan 25 2006 :  1:35:37 PM

You'r right.  For a lot of folks, learning how to nail the course at divisionals or a national in only 3 runs is a shock after doing 6-8 runs all the time with a club like SASCA.  Personally, I find myself worrying if I am even capable of getting a decent run with only 3 chances.  Because of that, I like being able to get the 3 run practices too.

[Ricky Crow]

For the last year or two, I've been tracking my times when I was running the S2000 on street tires and found that more times than not, my fastest run of the day would be my first run in the afternoon set of runs.  The reason was because the pavement was much cleaner.  Being in a stock class, I would ALWAYS be in the first run group and was penalized because of the fine gravel on the ground.  John B, you've never had to deal with that being in the second run group in your Prepared/Mod class you ran the Z car in; my run group would always sweep the course for you.

Unless we bring a street sweeper out to drive on the course before anybody gets on course in the morning, the first run group will always have a more difficult time in the first heat.  The course gets grippier throughout the day (as long as you're not overheating your own tires).  This happened the same at the Alamodome and at VZWA.

Ricky